Milankovitch ice sheet and paleo-eustatic sea level models have been confronting the same sedimentary problem -- & the parallels don't stop there Stuart R. Gaffin Center for Climate Systems Research, Columbia University, 2880 Broadway, NY, NY 10025, USA; email: srg43@columbia.edu A basic aspect of sedimentary systems that transcends Earth science disciplines is the existence of a nearly horizontal equilibrium surface intersecting with the free sedimentary surface. The problem arises from this that observed changes in relative dimensions for such a system can be caused by an infinite combination of rates for the two surfaces. In this talk I show that the solution that has implicitly been attempted in research models is for the time evolution of one of the surfaces to be reconstructed independently of the state of the other surface. When such reconstructions are of the equilibrium surface I term them 'A' type models and when of the sedimentary surface I term them 'B' type. I show that Milankovitch ice sheet models are A-type and that sediment core sea level models ('backstripping' models), when expressed in terms of basement depth, are B-type and both are implicitly confronting the same problem identified above. Mechanisms of eustatic sea level change (oceanic water or basin volume changes) provide A-type information and correspond to Milankovitch snowline forcing. In this framework, ice free geologic periods have a specific meaning: the equilibrium surface (sea level) did not change so rapidly or with such large amplitudes and this serves as an A-type reconstruction. The central target data for sedimentary cycles in each case -- oxygen isotope data for Late Pleistocene ice volume cycles and high-order (~0.5-2 Myr) Cretaceous sedimentary sequence cycles -- both present the unraveled problem of revealing only the combined interaction of the equilibrium surface and the evolving sedimentary surface. At every level these two outstanding sedimentary cycles present systematic parallels.